Find a pub that needs you

(ismypubfucked.com)

90 points | by thinkingemote 3 hours ago

17 comments

  • sefrost 1 hour ago
    Wow a fantastic independent pub near where I used to live in London is seeing its rateable value go up 480%! This website really puts the headlines in to a nice local perspective.

    It seems like the taxes only go up while the services get worse in the UK, although I’ve been away for 5 years now so maybe things improved.

  • anfractuosity 26 minutes ago
    Great idea!

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/personal-finance/finance-expe... shows how little pubs make per pint, very sad.

    If anyone's curious about cask beer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ud_eTwY4nc&list=PLyDTS7ZG3z... is a very interesting youtube video series by The Craft Beer Channel.

  • fourside 1 hour ago
    For anyone else who entered a US zip code and was confused by the ‘invalid zip code’ error: this is UK only.
    • notatoad 1 hour ago
      your first clue might have been that it does not say "zip code" it says "postcode".
      • badc0ffee 59 minutes ago
        Australia and NZ have postcodes, too.

        If they had made this a .co.uk rather than a .com, there would be no confusion.

      • SoftTalker 42 minutes ago
        Or the term "pub." In the US it's much more usual to say "bar." Maybe "tavern" but that sounds rather dated to my ear.
        • Thews 19 minutes ago
          When I lived in the PNW people used the word pub more than bar.
          • selectodude 13 minutes ago
            That’s because everybody up there thinks that liking soccer makes them English.
      • MisterTea 1 hour ago
        I doubt most people would bother to think about that detail.
    • amouat 9 minutes ago
      Seems to be England only. No results for Edinburgh.
    • xrownow 50 minutes ago
      Any plans to release the code? Would be nice to allow others to do something similar for their local pubs.
    • imzadi 1 hour ago
      Yeah, they could reduce confusion by changing "the government" to "the UK government."
      • Tom1380 1 hour ago
        If Americans did the same it would be great
        • deelayman 1 hour ago
          This is also a problem that exists within countries. My RSS feed is littered with Canadian independent (national) news agencies not defining what municipality article headlines relate to. E.g. "Mayor pushes back against province on xyz issue". Okay, that might be huge news for Timmins Ontario , but maybe BAU for Toronto. Even skimming the lead paragraph doesn't define the city often.

          *Editting with a point: Perhaps everyone assumes a local audience.

        • pierrec 1 hour ago
          Americans, hm? I see what you did there.
        • RIMR 1 hour ago
          Good luck. Americans won't even differentiate Washington State and Washington D.C. Even the AP guidelines say that "Washington" is ubiquitous shorthand for "Washington D.C." and recommends against shortening it to "D.C."
  • rconti 1 hour ago
    Interest in context on "government pub rates". New tax scheme?
    • amiga386 1 hour ago
      Existing tax. Proposed new calculation for the "value" of business property, disproportionately affecting pubs.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8e57dexly1o

      > In her November Budget, Chancellor Rachel Reeves scaled back business rate discounts that have been in force since the pandemic from 75% to 40% - and announced that there would be no discount at all from April. That, combined with big upward adjustments to rateable values of pub premises, left landlords with the prospect of much higher rates bills.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_rates_in_England

      > Properties are assessed in a rating list with a rateable value, a valuation of their annual rental value on a fixed valuation date using assumptions fixed by statute. Rating lists are created and maintained by the Valuation Office Agency, a UK government executive agency.

    • flir 52 minutes ago
      Pubs are dying. Have been for years.

      Many deaths were postponed because their taxes were reduced due to Covid. Those taxes are now returning to normal levels. This will result in a glut of deaths, as pubs that were just hanging on go under.

      The policy question is, basically, do we want to subsidize pubs because they're part of our national culture, even though we don't use them nearly as much as we used to?

      • kristianc 34 minutes ago
        "Does Britain really need?" has been responsible for the gutting of so much of what used to make Britain a nice place to live over the last 20 years. You can say she same about public libraries, local bus routes, civic architecture, arts funding, youth services, maintenance budgets. The damage has been incalculable.
    • RobinL 1 hour ago
      > In her November Budget, Chancellor Rachel Reeves scaled back business rate discounts that have been in force since the pandemic from 75% to 40% - and announced that there would be no discount at all from April.

      That, combined with big upward adjustments to rateable values of pub premises, left landlords with the prospect of much higher rates bills.

    • cjs_ac 1 hour ago
      Changes to property taxes on business premises.
  • numbers 3 minutes ago
    what is a "rateable value" here?
  • tmp10423288442 12 minutes ago
    Broken - getting `ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR` when trying to open it in Chrome
  • fauria 1 hour ago
    Find an English pub that needs you.
    • graemep 53 minutes ago
      Not true, it also covers pubs in Wales
    • QuercusMax 1 hour ago
      Yeah, I have NO clue what this site is even about.
      • 9JollyOtter 1 hour ago
        It is a "use it or lose it" style campaign by the looks of it.

        Lots of Pubs in the UK are closing down in recent years. Pubs have traditionally been a big part of socialising in the UK. I don't drink anymore so I don't bother unless I am having a pub lunch on a Friday.

  • hunglee2 53 minutes ago
    brilliant website which manages to convey classic British humour on a classically British topic. Also shines much needed light on the very serious challenges independent British Pubs are undergoing - these are essential social institutions, social coherence is damaged every time one of these shut down.
  • jihadjihad 1 hour ago
    I like how the status values could be used as labels of economic wellbeing for people, too:

      Somehow Fine
      Feeling It
      Struggling
      Fucked
      Absolutely Fucked
    • stonegray 2 minutes ago
      Stealing this for error logging levels
  • sobiolite 9 minutes ago
    The nearest "absolutely fucked" pub to me hasn't existed since 2008. I'd say they have bigger problems than a rates increase.
  • wat10000 46 minutes ago
    People really struggle when given a link to a web site that isn't for them, huh.
    • eterm 11 minutes ago
      People will bandy about terms like "prop 34" assuming they don't need to provide any context and that everyone knows what that means, while acting like a website is bad because it's concerning something outside their usual jurisdiction.
  • dgxyz 40 minutes ago
    Having watched two alcoholic family members die horribly, spurred on by functioning alcoholic friends whos only social interaction is at the pub through habit only, fuck 'em. Let them die.

    We need better social spaces which do not have the token cost of drinks to use.

    • antihero 36 minutes ago
      Ok so because your family were alcoholics nobody should have a space to drink? What an absurd thing to say.
      • dgxyz 29 minutes ago
        No I'm saying we have a social problem with alcohol in this country and brush it under the table as a cultural identity thing.
  • lenerdenator 58 minutes ago
    This might be the single most British website on the internet.

    I wonder if there's an equivalent use case in the US.

  • ajb 48 minutes ago
    Just getting a totally black map with anonymous coloured dots on both chrome and Firefox. The pub may or may not be fucked, but the website is.

    (Yes I tried disabling all the dark settings, no difference)

  • edent 48 minutes ago
    The one near me which is absolutely fucked, as far as I'm concerned, deserves it.

    Fighty customers, crap beer, odd opening hours, and half their food menu is off ("sorry mate, we've got no cheese"). Oh, and now their credit card terminal prompts customers for a tip!

    I love a good pub, but most are crap.

  • BolsunBacset 12 minutes ago
    The UK government hates its populace, particularly its natives. Downvote all you want.