Found: Medieval Cargo Ship – Largest Vessel of Its Kind Ever

(smithsonianmag.com)

85 points | by bookofjoe 5 hours ago

6 comments

  • mikkupikku 1 hour ago
    > Its planks are made of Pomeranian oak from modern-day Poland, and the wood of its frame came from the Netherlands.

    I'm surprised the raw materials came together over such a distance. That transporting lumber was economical back then is remarkable.

    • Duanemclemore 52 minutes ago
      Check out the History of the Germans season on the Hanseatic League [0]. The bulk goods trade was in the Baltic / Northern Europe was actually huge. The Hansa themselves traded all the way from London to Novgorod. Anyway, it's an absolutely fascinating subject and period.

      [0] https://historyofthegermans.com/hanseatic-league/

    • twic 1 hour ago
      Well, as the article says:

      > Per the statement, the large vessels were made to sail north from the Netherlands, around Denmark and toward the Baltic Sea. [...] Uldum adds that shipbuilders made the cogs as large as possible to transport bulky cargo, like timber

      Once you've built one cog, you've got the ideal tool to fetch Polish timber to build more!

    • IncreasePosts 32 minutes ago
      You might be interested in tin transport during the bronze age then - You'll find tin mined in Cornwall in ships that sank off the coast of Turkey 3500 years ago.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_sources_and_trade_during_a...

  • mmooss 2 hours ago
    Is there a paper somewhere?

    Statement from the Viking Museum:

    https://www.vikingeskibsmuseet.dk/en/about-us/news-and-press...

    Documentary referenced in the statement (I think):

    https://www.dr.dk/drtv/episode/gaaden-i-dybet_-fra-ukendt-ha...

    • tokai 15 minutes ago
      No. It's going to take some time, and theres a good change it'll come as a danish language monography or one or more phd thesis'.
  • einpoklum 1 hour ago
    This is the kind of ship they found:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cog_(ship)

    larger ships in the later middle ages were the Caravel and the Carrack, which typically had more than a single mast.

  • alberth 2 hours ago
    Who would have guessed the Smithsonian of all organizations would have so many video popup ads.

    Isn’t the greatest experience on mobile when so little of the content can be seen due to popups.

    • quinncom 1 hour ago
      Smithsonian Mag used to be the Institution’s brain‑child, now it’s just a click‑bait lifestyle tabloid full of celebs. The magazine’s editorial directives have diverged from the institutions mission. They care more about pageviews and ads than research.
    • dyauspitr 1 hour ago
      I can appreciate their troubles. How is someone supposed to pay for all the overhead that goes into research and writing these articles without a source of income. People also seem dead against subscriptions. The only way that seems to work is appealing to the LCD and raking in stream bucks but not all media/literature, especially the valuable kind, is conducive to that model.
    • Zardoz84 1 hour ago
      Ads ? What Ads...

      I forgot that I use Firefox for Android with uBlock Origin. I don't see any ads NEVER.

      • stronglikedan 55 minutes ago
        > I don't see any ads NEVER

        So you see some ads occasionally? Then why are you asking "what ads"?

  • paulnpace 2 hours ago
    Amazingly under only 40' of water.
    • patall 57 minutes ago
      The baltic has tons of wrecks. Because of its brackishness, both marine and fresh water wood decomposing organism dont survive there and thus old ships got preserved really really well. Some are in really shallow (walkable) water, especially in areas where the land is rising.
    • Someone 1 hour ago
      That may be not that amazing for a shipwreck in the Øresund. According to Wikipedia, its maximum depth is 40m (130’) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Øresund), so chances are a lot of it is less deep. There also may be sampling bias, with shipwrecks in shallower water being more likely to be found, and, if the tides flow faster in deeper water, survivorship bias.
      • bluGill 16 minutes ago
        ships are less likely to wreck in deep water. Storms can sill overturn them (though if they are unstable getting to deep water is questionable). You mostly expect wrecks from hitting rocks on the bottom. Though in war time sinking happens in deep water.
  • dgan 3 hours ago
    Patrician II/III anyone? One of the best games of my childhood, sweet memories