A Periodic Map of Cheese

(cheesemap.netlify.app)

73 points | by sfrechtling 2 hours ago

20 comments

  • MinimalAction 0 minutes ago
    The idea is cool, but I have become personally allergic to AI generated content and styles. This one is pretty surely built using Claude.
  • themonsu 5 minutes ago
    I don't know if it's just me, but having built enough websites with AI tools, I'm 99% sure this site has been built with AI. Nothing wrong with that, but the AI look makes me doubt the content is also just put together by AI.
  • GuB-42 7 minutes ago
    Bloomy-Rind Buffalo is actually not rare at all, at least in France and Italy. I can find it in grocery stores.

    Look for "Camembert di Bufala". It tastes as described in the website.

    Also, while I can't think of hard goat cheese in the same way as Parmigiano-Reggiano, small Crottin-style goat cheese age well in the right conditions. For example, Pelardon can be sold at various stages: fresh, creamy, dry. The very aged kind can exceed a year and looks a bit like a cookie: hard, brownish, much smaller than the fresh kind because it lost most of its moisture. But it doesn't taste at all like a cookie, it is very strong, enough to numb your tongue, you can grate it if you want to.

  • lkm0 8 minutes ago
    Why put comté and gruyère in two different categories? I just realized that in France the categorization of cheeses is closer to how they are prepared:

    - fresh

    - soft

    - hard but not cooked

    - hard and cooked

    and it results in entirely different groupings. This will surely make some people unhappy.

  • goosejuice 1 hour ago
    Curiously missing human milk source. Not that I advise it.

    Big fan of the thistle + sheep cheeses. Queso de la Serena and Azeitao are fantastic and very interesting.

    Quadrello makes a great grilled cheese.

    • fcpk 46 minutes ago
      human milk is pretty delicious?
    • globular-toast 53 minutes ago
      It's missing loads of other mammals too, like seals and whales which are often over 60% fat.
  • AgentNews 15 minutes ago
    We've forgotten the crackers! https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nwwu6GpCTBg
  • Galanwe 46 minutes ago
    I am shocked that soft and fresh cheese are conflated in the same category. Both the texture and process are different. Brie is nothing like Ricotta.
  • bibstha 52 minutes ago
    > Yak Milk Gruyère

    > If a Nepali dairy cooperative partnered with an Alpine affineur, this could be extraordinary — dense, butterscotch-rich, with a savory depth that cow milk can't match.

    I believe Himalayan French Cheese is doing this already. https://www.facebook.com/himalayanfrenchcheese/

  • chaidhat 27 minutes ago
    Can't deer make cheese? Why is it specific to Reindeer?
  • haunter 31 minutes ago
    Brie and ricotta in the same category :D

    That isntantly invalidates the whole thing

  • densekernel 47 minutes ago
    I was so hoping for a period table with elements like Ch, Br, Pa
  • zeristor 1 hour ago
    Perhaps cheese from Mad Max: Fury Road Mother’s milk.

    Theoretically Lions etc, could be milked. As could some whales.

    This is left as an exercise for the reader.

    • dhosek 50 minutes ago
      Quotes from two bits of entertainment come to mind:

      Monty Python Cheese Shop sketch:

      C: Paper Cramer,

      O: no

      C: Danish Bimbo,

      O: no

      C: Czech sheep’s milk,

      O: no

      C: Venezuelan Beaver Cheese?

      O: Not today, sir, no.

      And Meet the Parents:

      Greg Focker: You can milk just about anything with nipples.

      Jack Byrnes: I have nipples, Greg, could you milk me?

    • goosejuice 1 hour ago
      When I was behind the cheese case quite awhile ago, we had a customer who misunderstood Wales as Whales. A good laugh was had.

      "How do they milk the whales!?"

      • dhosek 49 minutes ago
        SCUBA gear, obviously.
  • ivaivanova 1 hour ago
    Would love to learn more about how to put this together?
    • flir 44 minutes ago
      The "Fantasy, but the chemistry works" phrasing in the last box on the first tab makes me suspect chatbot input.

      Which is a pity, because I like the exhaustive structure. I just can't trust it. But I guess if I was going to dive into inventing weird cheeses, I wouldn't start with a blog post anyway.

      (It would be so easy to generate 50k "Periodic table of <noun>" pages and just throw them into the wild. The public internet really is cooked, isn't it).

  • jrm4 26 minutes ago
    I like how "soft to hard" makes sense as a gradient, which is often the flaw in new "periodic tables," but, for anyone who might know, does Cow to Reindeer make any sense here as a gradient? I'm guessing not?
  • ChrisArchitect 1 hour ago
    Aside: why do all these "Index of.." or "Map of..." dataset compilation sites lately all have the same beige color scheme and font look?
    • lukeasch21 58 minutes ago
      I suspect the surface level answer has something to do with AI, but I would be curious to know the deeper factors at play. Do all popular models gravitate towards the same frameworks and design patterns? As an aside, I'm a little bit suspect of this account having no activity since 2019 and then posting this. Hopefully I'm just overthinking things.
    • desmondwillow 58 minutes ago
      Claude prefers it.
  • coke12 1 hour ago
    What about human cheese?
  • chakintosh 52 minutes ago
    I hate how I can now tell a website is made with claude within 2s of looking at it.
    • yreg 41 minutes ago
      It looks good, but since the design is becoming so ubiquitous in the small personal projects space (elsewhere as well, but I think it is most noticeable here) it is also boring.

      I've vibecoded a few websites for my own use that look very similar to this. If I designed them myself, I would (in those cases) not put up enough effort so they would be much less refined, but also less boring?

      edit: The expand/collapse behaviour of the table cells is quite strange. So the design is not that okay, afterall.

    • l3x4ur1n 40 minutes ago
      But, if the information is factual, does it matter if it is designed and coded by Claude? I was interested in information, not really the website design.
    • dust42 48 minutes ago
      That website is so low effort that 2s is actually long to figure it out. Very sure that it is robot upvoted.

      Edit: I live in the cheese triangle, France - Switzerland - Italy.

      • yreg 36 minutes ago
        Not everyone votes based on effort. The idea might be interesting to people and provoke discussion no matter how much time OP (?) spent creating it.
  • gowld 42 minutes ago
    I don't know why Submitter added the incorrect "periodic" modifier to the title.
  • globular-toast 55 minutes ago
    Nice. At first I thought there must have a dimension missing as it put things like brie and ricotta together. But then I noticed you can choose different dimensions, and there's more than just one more dimension!

    I like cheese but I am concerned about the ethics of it so I eat far less than I could. If you make cheese it's quite shocking how much milk you need to make a single portion of it. I make paneer sometimes and use the whey to make chapati. I wish I could be sure the milk I consume doesn't harm the cows. I also know they take the calves away and kill them too.

  • croisillon 32 minutes ago
    not a periodic map ; sounded promising but the text is just AI slop