17 comments

  • joshAg 1 hour ago
    cool. I don't want a crime-free society. It's not that I want crime, it's that at a certain point I'd rather allocate government attention/money/time at issues other than crime because the benefit to that other thing is greater than getting crime asymptotically closer to 0.
  • m463 4 minutes ago
    or move to japan, which does thing a different way

    I remember being in a fast food restaurant. A lady left her purse on her table and went to the bathroom. 8 year old kids walk to school in the city (with backpacks almost as big as they are).

    or another way of thinking of it: what will be done for you will be done to you

  • syntaxing 2 hours ago
    “ Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”

    - Benjamin Franklin

    • frankvdwaal 22 minutes ago
      Franklin was talking about freedom of the local government to tax, as in "those who surrender their right to decide who gets taxed, merely to obtain some money for immediate defence, risk losing both their political independence and their security."

      Funny how a defence of representative government's authority is turned into a warning against government exercising that authority in the wrong way. :)

  • AngryData 1 hour ago
    Most common crime is wage theft, don't see how they are going to do anything about that.
  • fnordpiglet 1 hour ago
    Wait, we’ve already given away our privacy. Where’s our crime free society?
  • silverFork 1 hour ago
    Well there are many issues and that is ownership and who gets to see the data and who gets to delete the data. If it is ever going to work, the ownership has to be public and not private. The videos should be impossible to delete.. The camera spread should be the same everywhere and would collect data non-selectively and only in public spaces. The data could only become visible to viewers only if certain criteria's are met and not continuous.
  • xtajv 1 hour ago
    Infringing on 4th amendment rights sounds like a crime to me.
  • al_borland 1 hour ago
    Or just keep the people in jail who are committing most of the crime. When someone has been arrested a dozen times, we don’t need cameras tracking them to keep people safe, we need that person removed from polite society.

    Flock is a poor solution to a failure of the judicial system.

    • tvbusy 5 minutes ago
      The worse the crime is, the harder the punishment but only until a certain level, after which the crime is above the law.
    • Dezvous 1 hour ago
      We need to solve the root of why crimes happen in the first place to make any difference, not just arrest people for committing crimes.
      • al_borland 19 minutes ago
        Something needs to happen between now and a cultural shift that will take decades.

        Compassion for the criminals comes at the expense of the peace, safety, and well-being of everyone else. There seems to be little compassion for the vast majority who act right, but have to put up with all of it, which ends up eroding public trust and keeps us on a downward spiral.

  • feverzsj 30 minutes ago
    Says who hides his house on google map.
  • fifilura 41 minutes ago
    So much stupidity from people who make every choice binary.
  • Woodi 1 hour ago
    Somehow "Minority Raport" was about crime... And stupidity build into oversight system.

    And under eg. communism where oversight is balooned to society self-harm you still have crime. And "bribery" is alias for communism and other dictatorships.

    So, it is just better to give up on Flock spy[hard]ware.

  • verdverm 2 hours ago
    I'll take freedom and the cons that come with it. I doubt very much that crime-free is even possible, especially the oligarchy crimes
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  • bdangubic 2 hours ago
    He’s right, the countries that have lowest crime rates have flock cameras everywhere and zero privacy, this is the way /s