9 comments

  • geerlingguy 16 minutes ago
    Tons of sites are currently offline to hopefully prevent an attack until they can update PHP; just the things I've run into this morning: OBS, TicketTailor, tons of wikis...
    • reddalo 5 minutes ago
      TicketTailor looks up to me?
  • mkesper 14 minutes ago
    That's why (mostly) static sites should be delivered as static HTML.
  • stingraycharles 14 minutes ago
    Which kind of makes sense, I think a lot of Dutch websites have been taken offline. I think it’s due to recent regulations that have been introduced.

    I think, given the (supposed) seriousness of this issue, it’s an adequate response. I suspect Cloudflare et al will have rules added to their managed WAFs within a few hours after release as well.

    That said: it seems like the core issue is that they can’t release PHP publicly without revealing the exploit, wouldn’t it have made more sense to coordinate in the background with these organizations, and important distros, so that this could have been patched without revealing the exploit?

    • jaydenkieran 3 minutes ago
      Cloudflare have already deployed WAF managed rules to help mitigate the vuln: https://x.com/dok2001/status/2112811965735202970

      But they say it's a stopgap and still advise patching. It makes sense, since their tweet also says "are updating mitigations as new vectors show up" so it seems like there are many ways to exploit this, whatever it is.

    • rapnie 0 minutes ago
      > Which kind of makes sense, I think a lot of Dutch websites have been taken offline.

      Europa.eu and all related sites were down very early CEST morning. They run Drupal.

    • trollbridge 10 minutes ago
      I expect that Cloudflare already knows some details of the problem and will have the rules up within minutes or seconds.
    • martijnvds 13 minutes ago
      All it takes is one small leak. Which seems to be what happened here.
  • WJW 22 minutes ago
    Well, the public website of the NCSC is offline. Who knows what crazy proprietary stuff they have.
    • jacquesm 5 minutes ago
      I don't know. Still, at a time like this I would expect a 99% static public website to be up, running and serving all comers. This is a complete mission fail, both in terms of using PHP and in terms of not having a fall-back plan in place.
    • baaym 18 minutes ago
      Not all hacks are used to steal data. It's an authoritative website. If this hack is used to host a fake PHP fix stuffed with credential stealers then you have a problem.
      • WJW 10 minutes ago
        Oh I absolutely agree they should take it offline until the fix is ready, I just mean that the NCSC itself is very much still operational even if their public website is temporarily offline. Like a computer with the monitor switched off.
    • BlackRabbit1 19 minutes ago
      PHP 4 maybe? lol
  • louwrentius 1 minute ago
    It's easy to harp on PHP but I wonder if we're going to get this kind of vulnerabilities in languages like Python or Go soon too.
  • tosti 18 minutes ago
    PHP is going to publish the patch in 5 minutes, right? On their website which runs on... Perl Catalyst? Ruby on Rails? Django? What could possibly go wrong?
    • freshpaint 17 minutes ago
      It's scheduled to release at 14:00 UTC so around an hour from now.
      • tosti 3 minutes ago
        Whoops, sorry, that's right. Thanks!
  • Hamuko 20 minutes ago
    Finnish state services too.

    https://yle.fi/a/74-20252600